You May Have Heard: You must be properly trained before you can disciple others But Jesus Modeled… You are best discipled as you disciple others. The conversation with Michael explores the idea that discipleship does not require formal training or theological education. It emphasizes the role of the Holy Spirit in empowering disciples and the importance of obedience over competence. The conversation also touches on the impact of intentional disciple making on personal growth and the role of discipleship within the family. It concludes with a discussion on increasing participation in the church and the encouragement to start making disciples.